I found something that helps my arthritic thumb

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For about the past year I have been developing pretty painful arthritis in my left hand, my doctor told me to take ibuprofen. I am not a big fan of ibuprofen or any other pain killer but I tried it and it was no help. The pain wasn't lessened and my strength wasn't what it used to be. So I did some research, you know looked at the internet and came across something that people were swearing by for arthritis pain. Borax. Yes, 20 Mule Team borax, like the stuff you put in laundry. So then I did more research and found that it is less dangerous than table salt and would take about 3 times more to probably kill you than salt. And then I went down the rabbit hole and started reading research papers that tested borax as a treatment for arthritis.

Those research papers fall into 2 categories, 1/2 of them say that borax is poison and shouldn't be ingested. Invariably, these papers are sponsored by the  government or big pharma. The other type says, "It works but we don't know why". This lead to a whole other rabbit hole of all the things borax can help with. Cardiac issues, kidney issues, diabetes, weight loss, osteoporosis and a whole host of others. 

So, I tried it. 1/4 teaspoon in 1 quart gatorade each day for 5 days and then a 2 day break to allow any excess to clear the body. For a couple of weeks I didn't really notice any difference, but after 3 weeks I noticed my thumb wasn't hurting so bad. 6 weeks in an there isn't enough pain to bother me. But that isn't the only change. I suffered a compression fracture in my T12 vertebra 25 years ago and it has bothered me since. I can predict what the weather is when I wake up in the morning just by gauging the pain in my back. Sadly, I have now lost that ability because I don't wake up with my back giving me pain. '

Almost everyone is deficient in their boron intake through diet because of eating processed foots and vegetables that do normally carry a lot of boron with them don't because plants strip it from the soil and it just isn't there anymore after decades of farming the same ground repeatedly. One of the articles I read was about a doctor in Australia who noticed many of his patients were deficient in boron so he started making borax pills and giving them to his patients for arthritis. The patients were the ones who pointed out to him that in addition to helping with arthritis is helped them with other issues. It got to the point where he couldn't make enough borax pills to fill the demand so he went to a pharmaceutical company and asked them if they would make the pills for him. They asked what it helped and he went down the list and the said it would hurt their other sales if people were using it so they wouldn't make any borax pills for him. It was shortly after that Australia banned the use of borax in foods. It has actually been used a long time as a preservative  Borax is actually added to some animal feed because it has the effect on pigs of more efficient utilization of what they eat. They don't eat as much and still produce the same weight as pigs not fed borax. Within a couple of years the US and EU also outlawed it for human consumption. France went completely bonkers on it and now a prescription is required to even buy it for use as a pesticide.

Anyway, I thought some of you old f@ckers here may want to hear about it because it has worked so well for me. Look into it yourself ask your doctor, though they may say, "It's poison". I told my Mom about it and she asked her doctor if it was safe, he hadn't heard of it before so he looked into it and gave it what I consider to be a stamp of approval. He has a bad back too and he is going to give it a shot.
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Where do you purchase this borax? I can remember 20 mile team borax commercials for laundry

1/4 teaspoon in any liquid? What does it taste like? Does it have to be a quart of liquid?
(This post was last modified: 05-15-2024, 12:55 AM by Rampy.)
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I’ve been taking 2 single serving packets of this stuff a day, sometimes 3 a day and it’s helping my joints feel better, not so much aching and it helps with the neuropathy

Plus it helps increase my protein intake

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Borax is found in the laundry soap section of the grocery stores. I'm not sure if it's pure borax. I do know it will kill ants when moistened with sugar water.
(This post was last modified: 05-15-2024, 01:40 AM by tommag.)
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With an LD-50 rating of 2.66 g/kg in rats, I think I'll pass.

I did have some success with Rhus-Tox tablets that I got at a vitamin store. It's basically poison ivy with the toxins removed. It otherwise mimics poison ivy and triggers your own immune system to produce anti-inflammatories.
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I have to be careful of anything medicine / supplement like to make sure it won't interact with my transplant meds. I'll look into the Borax. I have been taking this and it has helped with the arthritis in my thumb joints:

https://www.amazon.com/Sports-Research-C...C76&sr=1-2

I put a half scoop in my first cup of Joe in the morning and a full scoop in the occasional protein shake. Been taking it for a few years now. It ain't cheap but it has cut the pain in the joint when I grip things by a noticeable amount. This is the unflavored one but they also make it in chocolate and vanilla. The flavored ones taste decent but they don't dissolve as easily as the unflavored.

Terry
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(05-15-2024, 08:52 AM)specops56 Wrote: I have to be careful of anything medicine / supplement like to make sure it won't interact with my transplant meds. I'll look into the Borax. I have been taking this and it has helped with the arthritis in my thumb joints:

https://www.amazon.com/Sports-Research-C...C76&sr=1-2

I put a half scoop in my first cup of Joe in the morning and a full scoop in the occasional protein shake. Been taking it for a few years now. It ain't cheap but it has cut the pain in the joint when I grip things by a noticeable amount. This is the unflavored one but they also make it in chocolate and vanilla. The flavored ones taste decent but they don't dissolve as easily as the unflavored.

Terry


Interesting the stuff your taking is cheaper than the single packets I’m taking, wonder how they compare 🤷‍♂️

Stuff im taking 

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What you’re taking 

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(This post was last modified: 05-15-2024, 09:38 AM by Rampy.)
They do look almost identical. The unflavored works well because it doesn't affect the flavor of what you put it in. You won't know it's there.

Terry
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(05-15-2024, 02:07 AM)Longhair Wrote: With an LD-50 rating of 2.66 g/kg in rats, I think I'll pass.

I did have some success with Rhus-Tox tablets that I got at a vitamin store. It's basically poison ivy with the toxins removed. It otherwise mimics poison ivy and triggers your own immune system to produce anti-inflammatories.

The LD-50 rating for the dangerous chemical sodium chloride is 3 g/kg when ingested orally. That dangerous chemical is table salt. In order to approach the LD-50 dose of borax you would have to eat a half of a pound of the stuff, 1000 grams. 1/4 teaspoon of borax weighs roughly 2 grams.

So are you going to give up sodium chloride? Your daily intake is far more than 2 grams.
(05-15-2024, 12:54 AM)Rampy Wrote: Where do you purchase this borax? I can remember 20 mile team borax commercials for laundry

1/4 teaspoon in any liquid? What does it taste like? Does it have to be a quart of liquid?

Walmart in the laundry aisle. 20 mule team is the stuff.

I put it in grape gatorade and cannot taste any difference. I would imagine you could put it in most anything but being that it has a basic ph, mixing it with soft drinks would likely cause it to fizz like crazy and go flat. It doesn't have to be a full quart and one of the dosing options is "a heaping teaspoon in a quart of water" and then drink a teaspoon of that a day. From what I gather the taste isn't fantastic that way.



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