My Keltec KS7 before & after!

Did you read or watch anything you posted? None of them said that mini shells are inadequate for SD. They just don't prefer them for various reasons.  To each their own. The Federal shorty shells performed quite well with buckshot and slugs. These aren't meant for long distances or for hunting, however.  They are meant for close up work. And you need the right shotgun to run them; an Ithaca 37 ain't one.

In my Shockwave I can load 8+1 1.75" shells.  My KS7 can hold 11+1. That's a lot of firepower in a relatively small package. I use an adapter from Defender Tactical in my Shockwave that allows me to load full size and mini shells without having to remove the adapter.

Not sure how you can call Paul Harrell a FUDD and then mention Clint Smith or Rob Haught. I've taken classes with Clint, and he's a wealth of knowledge, ornery AF, and about as set in his old ways as you're going to get.  Rob isn't much better.

never said a 37 is good with baby shells now did I.

You want to shoot baby shells have at it, like I said I’m on the road and can’t find where it is about them sucking hind teet. 

Harrell is a clown along with being a murderer & a total FUDD who play acts to the camera and his followers drink the kool aid pretending to know something 

Clint and Rob ain’t FUDD’s at all and either one  has forgotten more than Harrell ever knew

Anyone who states that minishells are ineffective and "do absolutely nothing to a human other than some blood, they are not powerful enough to penetrate clothing and flesh/blood/fat to do any damage" when there is evidence to the contrary is a FUDD. I love Clint, but he says shit just to say it sometimes. He doesn't like .380, but he won't volunteer to get shot by one. Be willing the same can be said for mini shotshells.

As for Harrell being a murderer, it was a self defense shooting and he was acquitted of all charges.  On the subject of him being a FUDD, I've never heard him make a statement that he didn't back up with actual evidence and factual data.  The same can't be said for some. If you've got evidence showing otherwise, please produce it.

The normal/run of the mill 380’s are a joke, worthless and will not pass he FBI ballistic he’ll testing 

anyone who counters with the let me shoot you with it argument is a clueless fool and nobody to listen to 

Harrell is a murderer and got off on the charges somehow really suspiciously So you love him, good for you but it does not change anything he is still a murderer FUDD with a pack of rabid dogs followers drooling over him

till you cam prove without a shadow of doubt that baby shotgun shells are as effective as Federal low recoil law enforcement it’s all mental masturbating as they are completely unproven