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The NFA


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srjdsmith, 11-12-2023, 11:42 AM

So, born 1964 the NFA has been a thing my whole life. I remember Dad talking about “Saturday Night Specials” and the fact that he had some. One, for example, was a Herter’s single action.22 revolver. It’s extremely low price- even for those days- made it technically, legally, a Saturday Night Special.

I see lots of ‘chatter’ that the pro-2A rulings, such as the FPC and GOA have gotten recently, spell an end to the NFA. I think this is really just wishful thinking? Those rulings seem to be saying the ATF can’t make laws- but the NFA is law. In order to get rid of it, the law itself would have to be ruled unconstitutional, and I don’t see that happening.

Thoughts?


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Genesis Automobile……


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Rampy, 11-10-2023, 09:46 PM

Anyone know anything good or bad about the Genesis GV 80????

Been looking for a decent AWD long term SUV &trading in the Dodge for….not impressed with Dodge’s long term performance & want something good in the snow for the wife as well as long distance road trips


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I filled my deer tag!


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tommag, 11-10-2023, 01:47 AM

Unfortunately,  I used my freightliner.


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[FPC News] FPC and FPCAF WIN: Fifth Circuit Vacates ATF’s Unlawful “Frame or Rec


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Alphie, 11-09-2023, 10:51 PM

[FPC News] FPC and FPCAF WIN: Fifth Circuit Vacates ATF’s Unlawful “Frame or Rec

<p><strong>NEW ORLEANS, LA</strong><span style="font-weight: 400;"> (</span><span style="font-weight: 400;">November 9, 2</span><span style="font-weight: 400;">023) – Today, Firearms Policy Coalition (FPC) and FPC Action Foundation (FPCAF) announced that the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals has ruled in their favor, holding that portions of ATF’s “frame or receiver” rule are unlawful in </span><a href="https://www.firearmspolicy.org/vanderstok"><em><span style="font-weight: 400;">VanDerStok v. Garland</span></em></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">. The Rule will remain in effect “pending the disposition of the appeal in the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit and disposition of a petition for a writ of certiorari, if such a writ is timely sought,” per an August </span><a href="https://www.supremecourt.gov/docket/docketfiles/html/public/23A82.html"><span style="font-weight: 400;">order</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> from the Supreme Court. The opinion can be viewed at </span><a href="http://fpclegal.org"><span style="font-weight: 400;">FPCLegal.org</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">.</span></p>


http://www.firearmspolicy.org/fifth-circ...eiver-rule


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I got to be an active shooter today


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MontanaLon, 11-09-2023, 08:28 PM

My wife volunteered me to play an active shooter for a drill at the hospital. It was interesting. It was scripted as a domestic situation which overflowed into the hospital with the victim being a hospital employee. Everyone was aware there was going to be a drill including the patients. But no one besides the planners and the police were privy to how it would happen. We got together and stepped through it before kicking it off.

What I found exceptionally interesting was the concern of the police that it could go sideways due to an unaware concealed carrier thinking it was the real deal and shooting me. Mind you, carrying into a hospital here is illegal but the cops said that no one actually pays attention to that law and it is stupid to believe that anyone would abide by it, especially someone intent on doing harm. So the cops were on hand to make sure I didn't get shot by some well intentioned person. 

The target of my shooting was the head of radiology who is a smoke show, 10 out 10. I told her it was nothing personal and also shot the person who works in the office with her. Kind of funny, after the shooting, one of the workers in the radiology department came into the office and locked the door behind her. I asked what she was doing and she said she was hiding from the shooter. Bad luck on her part, she got added to the body count. Then I left the office and found maintenance cleaning an exam room. One more dead. Then it was my turn to off myself.

It was interesting doing the AAR. The receptionist who I asked where radiology was said I scared the crap out of her. I was masked and had sunglasses on, otherwise she would have recognized me from my delivering flowers on a regular basis. But she also said I was very polite because I said thanks after she wouldn't tell me where to go and that I would find it myself. I apologized to her and said I would bring her a flower sometime.

Observations on my part. If they really got hit with someone who wanted to kill lots of people, it would be a bloodbath. With the possible exception of the legal concealed carrier carrying into a prohibited place. It took 3 minutes after I announced my intentions to commit murder for the hospital to go into lockdown. They can lock most of the internal and external doors on command from the security team but they have to wait to get an alert from an employee. I had 4 people dead before that happened and except it wasn't scripted that way I could have done a whole lot more. It took 11 minutes for the text messages to go out that there was a shooter in the building which was coincidentally right about the time the cops found me. 

It was a good experience, I hope to get to participate again but they let me off the leash so I can really show them how bad it could be.

My biggest concern, at least before the cops mentioned the possibility of getting shot by someone not in the drill, was that I would give one of the little old ladies who volunteer at the front desk a heart attack. Thankfully that didn't happen.


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