One thing I'll mention while I'm thinking about it is the eye relief and how it relates to positioning the unit, AND something I read regarding the newer "micro" magnifiers.
One typically positions a red dot all the way forward on the upper, just at the point where the handguard starts. When I set this up, I started with the magnifier and initially had the eyepiece flush with the end of the upper/charging handle in order to have adequate eye relief and keep the red dot as far forward as was practical.
That didn't work out because when I placed my cheek against the stock where I normally do, I was getting some black "ghosting" and not a full, clear view through the magnifier. I found that if I moved it back just a little more, I got the full view without distortion. This moves the red dot back a little, but it's still forward enough to not be an issue when using the red dot alone with the magnifier flipped to the side.
I did see a reviewer mention that there's no set distance between the two units required - you can have them barely touching, or with a gap between them.
Regarding micro magnifiers, a commenter mentioned that he bought a micro unit, but was having trouble with the eye relief. He said that the stated eye relief seems to be a little "generous" and that he needed to be a bit closer (like in my case) in order to get a full, clear view through the magnifier and he regretted buying the micro because with the full size, it extends back further, putting it closer to your eye vs him having to move his eye closer to the "short" magnifier.
Interesting.
I didn't realize they had so many combo setups. I have one of those Romeo MSR red dots. It lacks the shake awake that the Romeo 5 has, but it's not a bad red dot.
I just leave mine on "5" all the time.
Every time I looked at a reputable brand magnifier, I shut that idea down quick when I saw the prices. Ha.
I will say that the fit and finish on the Monstrum pieces is exceptional - much nicer than I expected. Whether it holds up long term is the big question.
I figured for all the more "action" the rifle is likely to see, I think I'll be OK with this stuff. If I decide I REALLY like the magnifier thing, I can save up for a better one.
I'll add more info/opinions as I go. I just installed them last night, so I need to play around with them.
I will say that the magnifier moves to the side with a push and back with not too much effort, but not TOO loose either - it's just right.
There is NO slop/play in the mechanism - it's way nicer feeling than expected.
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I'm NOT digging the way this forum posts all my posts as one, long, run on sentence instead of individual posts.
Not sure if I'm doing something wrong by clicking "New Reply" (up top), so I'm trying the "Reply to this Post" down at the bottom to see if it posts any differently.
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EDIT: UGH! Same thing
(This post was last modified: 07-17-2023, 11:21 PM by Emptymag.)
One typically positions a red dot all the way forward on the upper, just at the point where the handguard starts. When I set this up, I started with the magnifier and initially had the eyepiece flush with the end of the upper/charging handle in order to have adequate eye relief and keep the red dot as far forward as was practical.
That didn't work out because when I placed my cheek against the stock where I normally do, I was getting some black "ghosting" and not a full, clear view through the magnifier. I found that if I moved it back just a little more, I got the full view without distortion. This moves the red dot back a little, but it's still forward enough to not be an issue when using the red dot alone with the magnifier flipped to the side.
I did see a reviewer mention that there's no set distance between the two units required - you can have them barely touching, or with a gap between them.
Regarding micro magnifiers, a commenter mentioned that he bought a micro unit, but was having trouble with the eye relief. He said that the stated eye relief seems to be a little "generous" and that he needed to be a bit closer (like in my case) in order to get a full, clear view through the magnifier and he regretted buying the micro because with the full size, it extends back further, putting it closer to your eye vs him having to move his eye closer to the "short" magnifier.
Interesting.
(07-17-2023, 10:09 PM)RocketFoot Wrote: I might have to check that out! I've been looking for a magnifier set for a 16" carbine I built. I've been eyeing up the Sig MSR and Juliet 3 from Amazon but I haven't pulled the trigger yet...still weighing options!
Sig Sauer Romeo MSR Red Dot + Juliet3 Micro Magnifier Combo FDE SORJ72011 https://a.co/d/adqc33e
I didn't realize they had so many combo setups. I have one of those Romeo MSR red dots. It lacks the shake awake that the Romeo 5 has, but it's not a bad red dot.
I just leave mine on "5" all the time.
Every time I looked at a reputable brand magnifier, I shut that idea down quick when I saw the prices. Ha.
I will say that the fit and finish on the Monstrum pieces is exceptional - much nicer than I expected. Whether it holds up long term is the big question.
I figured for all the more "action" the rifle is likely to see, I think I'll be OK with this stuff. If I decide I REALLY like the magnifier thing, I can save up for a better one.
I'll add more info/opinions as I go. I just installed them last night, so I need to play around with them.
I will say that the magnifier moves to the side with a push and back with not too much effort, but not TOO loose either - it's just right.
There is NO slop/play in the mechanism - it's way nicer feeling than expected.
(test post)
I'm NOT digging the way this forum posts all my posts as one, long, run on sentence instead of individual posts.
Not sure if I'm doing something wrong by clicking "New Reply" (up top), so I'm trying the "Reply to this Post" down at the bottom to see if it posts any differently.
EDIT: UGH! Same thing
