interesting perspective on batfe

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For those of us who aren't happy with president Trump's firearms actions so far, here's an interesting perspective on what has happened in the past several days regarding the atf.
(This post was last modified: 01-31-2025, 06:46 AM by tommag.)
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I’ve stopped trying to explain to Trump haters that he is pro 2A

Low information voters think he banned bump stocks and wants to take your guns without court order and nothing will ever change their mind
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Well, we all have our different views on the subject but I thought this guy made it look like 4d chess. It'd be nice if that is correct, but the proof will be in the pudding.
(This post was last modified: 01-31-2025, 01:52 AM by tommag.)
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And then there are the Trump lovers that choose to ignore the anti-2A statements from Trumps own mouth and the anti-2A action that came from him the first time. Instead they call it just some 4000 D chess game he’s playing. Anybody that dares to point out the King has no clothes is branded a hater.

Terry
(01-31-2025, 03:54 PM)specops56 Wrote: And then there are the Trump lovers that choose to ignore the anti-2A statements from Trumps own mouth and the anti-2A action that came from him the first time. Instead they call it just some 4000 D chess game he’s playing. Anybody that dares to point out the King has no clothes is branded a hater.

Terry
Like I said, the proof will be in the pudding. I'm afraid you're right though, even though DJT junior is an avid shooter and hunter. He used to post regularly on the castboolits forum.
I don't see you as a hater, just a healthy sceptic. Scepticism is a good thing.
Overall, I like what President Trump is doing, but that doesn't mean I think he's perfect. I'm not a single issue voter but 2a is still important to me.
(01-31-2025, 05:54 PM)tommag Wrote:
(01-31-2025, 03:54 PM)specops56 Wrote: And then there are the Trump lovers that choose to ignore the anti-2A statements from Trumps own mouth and the anti-2A action that came from him the first time. Instead they call it just some 4000 D chess game he’s playing. Anybody that dares to point out the King has no clothes is branded a hater.

Terry
Like I said, the proof will be in the pudding. I'm afraid you're right though, even though DJT junior is an avid shooter and hunter. He used to post regularly on the castboolits forum.
I don't see you as a hater, just a healthy sceptic. Scepticism is a good thing.
Overall, I like what President Trump is doing, but that doesn't mean I think he's perfect. I'm not a single issue voter but 2a is still important to me.

You are correct; I'm not a Trump hater. I like most of what he is doing and has done. He is galaxies removed from the last guy. But, the 2A is my political barometer. If a politician steps on the 2A once, I have no reason to believe that he won't do it again.

Terry
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(01-31-2025, 05:54 PM)tommag Wrote:
(01-31-2025, 03:54 PM)specops56 Wrote: And then there are the Trump lovers that choose to ignore the anti-2A statements from Trumps own mouth and the anti-2A action that came from him the first time. Instead they call it just some 4000 D chess game he’s playing. Anybody that dares to point out the King has no clothes is branded a hater.

Terry
Like I said, the proof will be in the pudding. I'm afraid you're right though, even though DJT junior is an avid shooter and hunter. He used to post regularly on the castboolits forum.
I don't see you as a hater, just a healthy sceptic. Scepticism is a good thing.
Overall, I like what President Trump is doing, but that doesn't mean I think he's perfect. I'm not a single issue voter but 2a is still important to me.

Oh Trump is far from perfect and he’s making decisions I disagree with, but I’m well aware I’ll never agree with anyone 100% of the time, not even myself 😁😁😁😁😁😁

DJT was active trying to get the silencer act passed as well as national reciprocity. Have not heard if he’s pushing that again 

His other son is also a world class long range shooter & has trained with secret service along with running an incredible winery 

Seems the FBI/DOJ purge has begun and it’s glorious, musk is also freaking people out…..he has secured offices, locked out government bureaucrats that are freaking out & he moved in sofa sleepers as they are working 24/7

It will be interesting who ends up running the ATF and where we stand in a couple years….
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Yeah, if Trump does indeed stay the course, it will still be a long. bumpy road to 2nd freedom and then we risk losing it all again with the next regime, LOL! Let's hope not!
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The only way to keep from losing our gains in the next regime is to get Congress to put the changes into laws. EOs can and will be changed at the whim of the new president, but laws are a little harder to change.
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(02-01-2025, 08:42 AM)olfart Wrote: The only way to keep from losing our gains in the next regime is to get Congress to put the changes into laws. EOs can and will be changed at the whim of the new president, but laws are a little harder to change.


Even then it’s been proven anti gunners will go after any gains made, they have even been ignoring Supreme Court decisions 

Look at Colorado and how they are making anything with a magazine illegal & will be voting on it Monday. It grandfathers any current magazine fed firearm but once signed into law……..and it’s not a ban but safety measures
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